| The Secrets of Suramgamin | |
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Start |
Kamala the Phoenix in Castle of Knives |
Location |
Castle of Knives Temple of the Elk Talon Peak |
Type |
Chapter quest |
Parent Quest |
The Sound of a Thousand Screams |
Reward |
Helmet of the Dusk Secrets of the Suramgamin The Narrow Path |
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| Quest_SecretsOfSuramgamin (708ac0a58ef4c7b45a60182b7b50eb6f) | |
The Secrets of Suramgamin is a quest in Pathfinder: Kingmaker.
Journal[ | ]
| “ | Our lands were visited by some odd guests – monks of the mysterious Suramgamin order, who preach fighting evil through complete forbearance from violence. They wish to help us, but first they must be sure that our {king/queen} is deserving of their aid. Each of the order's masters has prepared a test for {him/her} – and I bet they won't be easy! I hope the reward is worth the trouble! | „ |
| Pass the trial of Kamala the Phoenix | +5760xp | Obj_01_TrialPhoenix (b58c5ef7513c6934a8b6c8588e7ad17c) |
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Kamala the Phoenix is casting a spell to open a portal into the First World, and return a couple of fairies to their homeland. Meanwhile, we're supposed to persuade them peacefully, without violence or threats, to sit calmly for a while... Fairies? Sit calmly? Has that ever been known to happen?
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| Pass the trial of Visaka the Unicorn | +5760xp | Obj_02_TrialUnicorn (5bf63ab6e41ef544ea53e77b6cf81fe2) |
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| The next trial will be held by Visaka the Unicorn. He's waiting for us near the Temple of the Elk. | ||
| Pass the trial of Puja the Wolf | +8640xp | Obj_03_TrialWolf (cda9c24672dd2f340a0e65b6c456bdcb) |
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How many of these trials are there? Well, the next one will be held by Puja the Wolf. For some reason, he decided that the best place to meet would be the summit of Talon Peak.
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| Pass the trial of Vidya the Lion | +4320xp | Obj_04_TrialLion (857c8760a26838e45889c6410b65c4b6) |
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Finally, the final trial! It will be held by Vidya the Lion near the Castle of Knives.
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| Hear the judgment of the Suramgamin | +28800xp | Obj_05_Verdict (fc38883e5678f084c8e3640b6ca9e499) |
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| At last, all the trials are finished! The masters of the order have gathered somewhere near the Castle of Knives to discuss the results. After all these challenges, it would be terribly vexing to learn it was all in vain! | ||
| - | No exp | Obj_06_Fail (dd54e16a011e382489cbe67583383280) |
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| Refuse to do the trials | ||
| “ | That's it – the trials are over, and the monks have left. These trials were such a royal pain! I swear, if anyone ever asks me to pass another trial – even for Evershining Sarenrae herself – well, I'll just smack them with my lute! | „ |
Walkthrough[ | ]
- During the trials, choosing [Attack] or "I don't care about your silly trials" options will result in quest failure. Those choices will be omitted in options below.
Trial of Kamala the Phoenix[ | ]
- Talk to Kamala, you get to pass Lore (Religion) DC 25 check for +450xp total.
- Agree to pass the trial.
- Diplomacy/Bluff DC 30 checks +720xp
- (Neutral Evil) Intimidate DC 20 +45xp
- After passing the Persuasion checks you will have to pass a Will DC 30 +720xp check
- DC 23 +90xp if passed second [Diplomacy] check
- DC 25 +180xp if passed second [Bluff] check
- To pass the trial you need to:
- Pass first [Diplomacy]/[Bluff] check
- Attempt second [Diplomacy]/[Bluff] check, regardless of outcome.
- Pass [Will] check.
- To get a point for Daksha the Chameleon's trial you need to pass Kamala's trial with passing second [Diplomacy]/[Bluff] check.
- Even if you failed the trial, the quest will still go on.
Trial of Visaka the Unicorn[ | ]
- Travel to Temple of the Elk and start Visaka's trial.
- You need to survive for one minute.
- Killing at least one monster fails the trial, but not the quest.
- Not harming the monsters at all required for a point in Daksha the Chameleon's trial.
- The easiest way is to hide your team in southeast corner and outrun the monsters by one character with invisibility on.
Trial of Puja the Wolf[ | ]
- Travel to Talon Peak and talk with Puja the Wolf.
- Travel to Castle of Knives and talk with Puja the Wolf.
- You must come to him within 8 days to complete the trial.
- You must come to him within 5 days to also gain a point for Daksha the Chameleon's trial.
- If you took more than 8 days to come to him you will fail the trial and objective, but quest will still continue.
Trial of Vidya the Lion[ | ]
- Talk to Vidya the Lion near the SW tower, she will ask you three questions out of the list of nine. Here are the correct answers:
- "What did teacher Avalo do when he learned the truth?" - "Organized debates about faith."
- "What does it mean to go the Way of the Hero?" - "Make the world a better place."
- "What does the name of our order mean?" - "The way of the hero."
- "What is the name of a martial art that members of our order are taught?" - "There are none."
- "What paths to achieving a master's title are there in our order?" - "The Ways of the Phoenix, Unicorn, Wolf, Lion, and Chameleon."
- "Where did our teacher come from?" - "From Jalmeray."
- "Where did teacher Avalo meditate as he learned the truth?" - "In Arthfell Forest."
- "Where is the main temple of our order?" - "Nowhere."
- "Which gods does our order venerate?" - "Shelyn, Irori, Iomedae, Sarenrae, Erastil, Abadar."
- You pass her test if you score at least 2 correct answers. 3 correct answers needed for a point in Daksha the Chameleon's trial.
Hear the judgment of the Suramgamin[ | ]
- Go south from Vidya to find Daksha the Chameleon.
- In order to pass Daksha the Chameleon's trial, you need to succeed in at least two things:
- In Kamala's trial pass two [Diplomacy]/[Bluff] checks and a [Will] check.
- In Visaka's trail do not harm any creature.
- In Puja's trial speak with him in Castle of Knives within 5 days after talking with him in Talon Peak.
- In Vidya's trial answer all three questions correctly.
- If you use first (Chaotic Evil) choice to attack: you gain nothing.
- If you hear out the verdict you get rewards based on the amount of votes.
- With 2 or less votes you gain nothing.
- With 3 or 4 votes you gain Secrets of the Suramgamin spell.
- With 5 votes you gain the spell and Helmet of the Dusk.
- Or with 3 to 5 votes you can choose second (Chaotic Evil) option and get Helmet of the Dusk and The Narrow Path.
- The Secrets of the Suramgamin is learned by all your divine casters. However only Good aligned characters can use it. Usually its only Tristian.