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Judgment of the Gods
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Start
Linzi Wants to Talk throne room event
Location
Temple of Shelyn
Type
Companion quest
Reward
Valerie gains a passive buff: Cautious or Valorous.
Previous Quest
Burning Bridges
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JudgementOfTheGods_quest (9803b9cde6935db4d82dc40824eb1c73)

Judgment of the Gods is a quest in Pathfinder: Kingmaker.

Journal[ | ]

Trouble has come from out of nowhere: the Order of Prisms, followers of Shelyn, are doing all they can to ruin the {barony/kingdom}'s reputation! We need to do something and stop these well-meaning pests!
Talk to Valerie about the strange letter +1440xp 01TalkToValerie (bc6a43cf7f81f0f4182f0a8f73d31b51)
I suspect that the schemes of the Order of Prisms must somehow involve Valerie. – I myself witnessed her furiously tearing up a letter! The last time she got so angry at a piece of correspondence was when she got a message from her former mentor. – Maybe this time it also has to do with the followers of Shelyn?
Go to the Temple of Prisms with Valerie +1440xp 02GoToTempleOfThePrisms (215216a1419115c439964fcc91e531b3)
If the {baron/baroness/King/Queen} wants to stop rumors harming the reputation of {his/her} lands, {he/she} and Valerie will have to pay a visit to this notorious Temple of Prisms – the convent of restless paladins.
Withstand the divine trial +2160xp 03WithstandTribunal (9a11dec15cad81a419ca0df75dafae0d)
It's insane: Valerie agreed to a divine trial, to rid herself of Shelyn once and for all... or ask for her forgiveness? Oh, I'll be devoting a whole separate chapter to this dramatic moment in the history of the Stolen Lands!
Talk to Valerie at the capital +7200xp 04TalkToValerieInTheCapital (239ded6ab5bf0f44398bf579cf465f6d)
The {baron/baroness/King/Queen} and Valerie marked a decisive end to an epic saga involving the Stolen Lands, paladins, and even a goddess! I wonder what Valerie thinks about what happened in the Temple...
- No exp JudgementOfTheGods_HiddenFail (ca97127f90e4d324a9f25b3da74a4f57)
Hidden Fail
The final word in the old conflict between Valerie and Shelyn's followers was spoken by the goddess herself! The Order of Prisms left the {barony/kingdom} alone, and Valerie was restored to her ravishing appearance. So what if she keeps saying looks don't matter. Everyone around is happy how it turned out!

Walkthrough[ | ]

Talk to Valerie about the strange letter[ | ]

  • Talk with Valerie "I hear you received an unpleasant letter lately..."
  • No matter what you say Temple of Shelyn gets revealed.

Go to the Temple of Prisms with Valerie[ | ]

Withstand the divine trial[ | ]

  • The trial Persuasion skill checks depend on your actions in previous Valerie quests.
  • Your choices in the trial will affect the final results.
Situation Key variables Dialogue
Duel with Fredero Sinnet
  • [Keep quiet]
    Valerie_Guilty +1, Valerie_Temper +1
  • [Diplomacy 30] "And yet Valerie observed all the rules. She came when Fredero called her. She accepted the challenge. Will none of this be taken into consideration?"
    Success: +720xp, Valerie_NotGuilty +1
    Failure: Valerie_Temper +1 and pick another option.
  • [Diplomacy 24] "We've come to meet with Fredero Sinnet for one reason only – to get rid of him."
    Success: +120xp, Valerie_Guilty +1
    Failure: Valerie_Temper +1 and pick another option.
  • [Keep quiet]
    Valerie_NotGuilty +1, Valerie_Temper +1
  • [Diplomacy 30] "Valerie despises Shelyn and everything she touches. Don't confuse her good manners with obedience to the goddess!"
    Success: +720xp, Valerie_Guilty +1
    Failure: Valerie_Temper +1 and pick another option.
  • [Diplomacy 24] "Everyone can choose their own path. You and Fredero follow Shelyn's faith, and Valerie has turned away from it. That doesn't mean you can interfere in her life!"
    Success: +120xp, Valerie_NotGuilty +1
    Failure: Valerie_Temper +1 and pick another option.
  • [Keep quiet]
    Valerie_Guilty +1, Valerie_Temper +1
  • [Diplomacy 24] [Whisper to Valerie] "Don't let him make you angry. It's what he wants!"
    Success: +120xp, Valerie_Guilty +1
    Failure: pick another option.
  • [Diplomacy 30] "Look what Fredero did to her! He mangled Valerie! Who could stay their hand and not deal a fatal blow after this?"
    Success: +720xp, Valerie_NotGuilty +1
    Failure: Valerie_Temper +1 and pick another option.
  • (Chaotic Neutral) [Bluff 30] [Lie] "We don't know anyone named Fredero Sinnet."
    Success: +720xp, Valerie_NotGuilty +1, Valerie_Temper +1
    Failure: Valerie_Temper +1 and pick another option.
  • [Keep quiet]
    Valerie_NotGuilty +1, Valerie_Temper +1
  • [Diplomacy 30] "I ordered her to deal a fatal blow – the proper ending for any proper duel. But if Valerie didn't agree with me, she wouldn't have done it."
    Success: +720xp, Valerie_Guilty +1
    Failure: Valerie_Temper +1 and pick another option.
  • [Diplomacy 24] "Valerie defeated Fredero in a duel and slew him on my orders. Leave her be!"
    Success: +120xp, Valerie_NotGuilty +1
    Failure: pick another option.
  • (Chaotic Neutral) [Diplomacy 30] [Lie] "We don't know anyone named Fredero Sinnet."
    Success: +720xp, Valerie_NotGuilty +1, Valerie_Temper +1
    Failure: Valerie_Temper +1 and pick another option.
Fire at Jamandi Aldori's Mansion
  • [Keep quiet]
    Valerie_Guilty +1, Valerie_Temper +1
  • [Diplomacy 30] "I do not agree with Valerie. She can be harsh, but her heart is overfilled with pain and bitterness. Judge her actions, not her words."
    Success: +720xp, Valerie_NotGuilty +1
    Failure: Valerie_Temper +1 and pick another option.
  • [Requires Chaotic] "Are you seriously going to judge whether Valerie is favored by Shelyn, based on her saving some guards from a fire?! Why? Would followers of other gods turn away from dying innocents?! Valerie's behavior was common decency, not a sign of special respect for Shelyn!"
    Valerie_Guilty +1
  • (Chaotic Neutral) [Bluff 30] [Lie] "What are you talking about? I don't remember any fire at Jamandi Aldori's house..."
    Success: +720xp, Valerie_NotGuilty +1, Valerie_Temper +1
    Failure: Valerie_Guilty +1, Valerie_Temper +1
  • [Keep quiet]
    Valerie_NotGuilty +1, Valerie_Temper +1
  • [Diplomacy 30] "What would you say about all of those you've killed since? Be honest with yourself, Valerie. You're a warrior, not a nurse!"
    Success: +720xp, Valerie_Guilty +1
    Failure: Valerie_Temper +1 and pick another option.
  • [Requires Chaotic] "Are you seriously going to judge whether Valerie is favored by Shelyn, based on her saving some guards from a fire?! Why? Would followers of other gods turn away from dying innocents?! Valerie's behavior was common decency, not a sign of special respect for Shelyn!"
    Valerie_NotGuilty +1
  • (Chaotic Neutral) [Bluff 35] [Lie] "What are you talking about? I don't remember any fire at Jamandi Aldori's house..."
    Success: +3840xp, Valerie_Guilty +1, Valerie_Temper +1
    Failure: Valerie_NotGuilty +1, Valerie_Temper +1
  • [Keep quiet]
    Valerie_Guilty +1, Valerie_Temper +1
  • [Diplomacy 27] "Valerie's only fault is that she obeyed my order."
    Success: +360xp, Valerie_NotGuilty +1
    Failure: Valerie_Temper +1 and pick another option.
  • [Requires Lawful] "I share with Valerie the blame for their deaths. Judge us both if you wish."
    Valerie_Guilty +1
  • (Chaotic Neutral) [Bluff 30] [Lie] "What are you talking about? I don't remember any fire at Jamandi Aldori's house..."
    Success: +720xp, Valerie_NotGuilty +1, Valerie_Temper +1
    Failure: Valerie_Guilty +1, Valerie_Temper +1
  • [Keep quiet]
    Valerie_NotGuilty +1, Valerie_Temper +1
  • [Diplomacy 27] "You judge Valerie harshly for obeying orders? Then why are you so persistent in seeking to judge her for breaking them?"
    Success: +360xp, Valerie_Guilty +1
    Failure: Valerie_Temper +1 and pick another option.
  • [Requires Lawful] "I share with Valerie the blame for their deaths. Judge us both if you wish."
    Valerie_NotGuilty +1
  • (Chaotic Neutral) [Bluff 35] [Lie] "What are you talking about? I don't remember any fire at Jamandi Aldori's house..."
    Success: +3840xp, Valerie_Guilty +1, Valerie_Temper +1
    Failure: Valerie_NotGuilty +1, Valerie_Temper +1
Conflict with Eveld the Silver-Tongued
  • [Keep quiet]
    Valerie_NotGuilty +1
  • [Diplomacy 30] "Ha! What a spineless creature! How can you take him seriously? Valerie, you must feel like a right hypocrite, trading bows with this scum."
    Success: +720xp, Valerie_Guilty +1
    Failure: Valerie_Temper +1 and pick another option.
  • [Keep quiet]
    Valerie_Guilty +1, Valerie_Temper +1
  • [Diplomacy 30] "You provoked her! It's your fault, Eveld!"
    Success: +720xp, Valerie_NotGuilty +1
    Failure: Valerie_Temper +1 and pick another option.
  • (Neutral Evil) [Intimidate 30] [Whisper to Eveld] "If I were you, I wouldn't accuse the one who serves the {Baron/Baroness/King/Queen} of the Stolen Lands. Anything could happen in these parts."
    Success: +720xp, Valerie_NotGuilty +1, Valerie_Temper +1
    Failure: Valerie_Temper +1 and pick another option.
  • At any stage of the trial you can pick "I'm tired of wasting my time. Valerie, we're leaving!" line, it will make both paladins and priests to attack you and the quest will fail.
  • If Valerie_Temper reaches 3 you also get to fight everyone and quest will fail.
  • After trial is finished you will have to fight Hegend and his paladins. Laryen, priests and Fredero Sinnet (if alive) will be on your side.
  • If by any means you had to kill everyone (quest fail) then you get:
    • Valerie gets Neutral Ending Slide, commonly known as "Farmville" ending.
    • Her romance can not be fully completed.
  • If Valerie_NotGuilty < Valerie_Guilty:
    • Valerie gains Cautious passive buff (Valerie gains a +2 inherent bonus to Dexterity and Reflex saving throws.)
    • Valerie gets Lawful Ending Slide, commonly known as "Hellknight" ending.
    • Valerie's scar will disappear.
  • If Valerie_NotGuilty >= Valerie_Guilty:
    • Valerie gains Valorous passive buff (Valerie gains a +2 inherent bonus to Strength and Charisma.)
    • Valerie gets Good Ending Slide, commonly known as "Muse" ending.
    • Valerie's scar will disappear.
    • Extra +960xp

Talk to Valerie at the capital[ | ]

  • Talk to Valerie "About what happened at the Temple of Prisms..."
    • This is the moment when Valerie gets the buffs.
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